dallas
* 15 meeting in Dallas of the program committee will choose the final
darpa
* DARPA: RCDE for aerial images and IUE (an advanced RCDE). Asked for
data
* Discussions on Image data base, cam PAMI do anything (i.e. add the
* images used in papers to a data base), when to add since the student
database
* database (7-10 sequences) and plans special sessions for experimental
* Discussion of mailing list form of membership database, signup,
* TAB) other (Image database -- Mosaic). Steve Shafer:CV home page
date
* (Possible dates, in October 1995; or Week before Thanksgiving.)
* Admendment that the dates will be held until until Boston in 95.
* Agenda item #9: ICCV93: Berlin (May?): Date not certain (partly due to
* dates). There are 4 distinct tracks: Computer Architecture, Signal
* Discussion on dates of ICCV/CVPR and conflicts
* has been selected. Dates: June 20-24, 1994.
* in the date was proposed.
* possible dates, co-chairs, and possible program committee members.
* Question regarding the dates (M-W before Thanksgiving), Gerard is
9 for date.
dave
* Processing Society (Dave Munson) approached the Computer Society about a
davis
* conference, upstairs rooms are HOT. (L. Davis): about 270
* papers submitted, 2 program committee reviewers, L. Davis, R. Jain and
day
* #9. PAMI Transactions (Anil Jain) 1 submission per day, working
* (Mulkagnar and Haralick), With the above meeting. 1-2 days, some
* arranged along with a one day workshop.
* fourth day.
* Graphics, Probabilistic Reasoning. Currently about 1 paper per day. Of
* if accepted). After decisions are made, there will be about 7-10 days
* investigating moving it back 1 day (end on Tuesday, Noon).
* on a single day. Each was sent to 3 reviewers, a subcommittee of
* poster session on each day.
* The call for papers is out. There are 4 days before and 4 days after
* tracks, number of days, length of papers) to reduce future outside
12 for day.
deadline
* (there is a motion workshop with it). The paper deadline is June
* Agenda item #5: Motion Workshop (R. Jain): The paper deadline
* deadline will be known soon and some attempt is being made to raise some
* June 20-23 at MIT. Paper deadline Nov 15 1994 -- really. Program
* mid-December submission deadline.
* Morning session, afternoon Ski, evening session. July 1 deadline.
* November or December with a deadline of September for the finished
7 for deadline.
deal
* () Deal with the number of papers, reason for multiple tracks.
* areas covered, etc. A discussion of how to deal with these and how to
* deal with selectivity issues followed. Some of the highlights of the
* discussion of worry and how to deal with overlap of other conferences
december
* Agenda item #11: Workshop on Computer Vision Applications: December 2-4,
* Bombay, mid-December. In association with other meetings in Bombay,
* December 5, 1988
* Item 9. ICCV-3. (Avi Kak) Will be held in Osaka, December 4-7, 1990,
* mid-December submission deadline.
* November or December with a deadline of September for the finished
* The meeting was adjourned at 12:15 on December 6.
* The rainy season is December/January, otherwise there is no difference
* to be held in December 1989 with Anil Jain as the general chair. This
* [Later, after the proposers stated that December 1997 would be
10 for december.
decide
* that a reasonable fraction of the committee meet to decide on the
decided
* ICCV95 location will be decided at ICCV93 in Berlin in May and that
deciding
* Agenda Item #4a: ICCV 95. As the by-laws do not allow deciding
decision
* 12 met to make the final decisions. The final selection gave
* A: When crucial decisions need to be made must be made by the
* decision last year. Just because people want it doesn't mean it is
* decision, 18 months for publication). The 6 months is mostly being met,
* executive board (10-12) that would meet and make decisions.
* Executive Board for decision making. History, there was an
* final decisions by the program co-chairs (Tsuji, Olaf, and Kak), they
* group to make decisions and bring them to the membership.
* if accepted). After decisions are made, there will be about 7-10 days
* J. Mundy met to make final decisions, about 1/2 accepted. The top 4
* members want. No decisions made.
* only make hard decisions after the reviews have done most of the
* retain more conference income, but decisions were postponed until the
* some decisions.
14 for decision.
decrease
* decrease and representatives.
decreased
* (replacing C. Suen). The backlog has decreased due to the increased
* do 3 reviews for all submissions. PAMI subscriptions have decreased
decreasing
* the conference numbers are decreasing so the CS requires budgeting
deemed
* an research centers. Deemed to be a success. There was a meeting
deferral
* There was discussion that this should be deferred. The deferral
deferred
* There was discussion that this should be deferred. The deferral
definition
* list is a mess. Q: (Kim Boyer) not a formal definition, or not an
* Q: Definition of Pattern Recognition -- at ICPR the Pattern Recognition subconference. Desire to have
* the correct definition of Context.
delayed
* delayed (due to audience members, etc.). Complain to Anil if there
delays
* delays in international delivery of programs, etc.
delegate
* 2 years (the delegates meet once every 2 years at ICPR).
* Discussion: the TC chair appoints all delegates, with nominal renewal every
* is that the TC chair be a permanant delegate.
* Motion (TC chair is one of the delegates) carried, no opposition.
* The TC is the US member group of IAPR with currently 4 delegates
delivery
* delays in international delivery of programs, etc.
delp
* Agenda Item #3a: Morphology workshop, Ed Delp. Was going to be this
depending
* change depending on the location of the conference.] The proposal
designs
* processing, VLSI designs) and load balancing between tracks, and
desire
* 70 people, desire for the meeting to continue. 90 submissions, 2 on
*
*
* desire not to conflict with CVPR93).
* Q: Definition of Pattern Recognition -- at ICPR the Pattern Recognition subconference. Desire to have
desired
* mathematical approaches of expert systems, etc. are desired. The
detail
* groups will go over papers in more detail. The review form is
determine
* determine, then the papers are different), can we trust the authors.
determining
* (ECCV, ICPR), a difficulty in determining what is different. Some
* Discussion centered on determining differences, who is responsible for
* were sent out for determining the Roberts award. There was also some
devote
* not a lot of people that will devote the time and effort to do the
dictate
* conferences, whether the TC should dictate conference format, and how to
did
* #2 Discussion (Kak): did we broaden the scope? After the last one
* Comment: (Freeman) Point missed, did this group want to have an
* Q: did it not include good people (e.g. document image analysis --
* the most recent newsletter did not.
* the policy in 1994 did not work. (Indicate it was submitted to
* this meeting at 250 Eric wanted 450 and the CS finally did allow 350.
6 for did.
diego
* in San Diego, June 6-8 with an AI and Computer vision Workshop (J.
* San Diego, CA
difference
* a meeting (concentrating on the intended difference between ICCV and
* current call includes a requirement for stating the differences
* Discussion centered on determining differences, who is responsible for
* The rainy season is December/January, otherwise there is no difference
different
* (ECCV, ICPR), a difficulty in determining what is different. Some
* can you tell if it is different (e.g. if it requires effort to
* continued. With possibly different alternatives for the future of
* determine, then the papers are different), can we trust the authors.
* Huang) This issue grows from concerns about the different meetings
* visce chairs from different countries.
6 for different.
difficulty
* (ECCV, ICPR), a difficulty in determining what is different. Some
diluted
* recognition not diluted by others. But expression may enter in.
dim
* in Object Recognition; Multi-Dim medical analysis(F)) Still space
dimensional
* #10. 1994 Workshop on Multi-Dimensional Biomedical Image Analysis
* Agenda item #6: Proposal for a workshop on three-dimensional structures
* indicate more specific topics within Pattern Recognition (High dimensional
* or multiple dimensional sensors (yes). Should it be multi-modal?
dimensions
* dimensions are being confused (selectivity, topic area,
directions
* directions by drawing on the best few papers for the other meetings
directly
* mail the newsletter directly to the US membership list (whatever that
discuss
* charging for extra pages (money goes to program committee). Discuss
* Steve: Discuss last year's proposal that we should reconsider
* this. So state our goal and discuss the structure:
* Time to discuss the issue for next meeting.
discussed
* (Rosenfeld) Newsletter was discussed earlier, crazy mailing list
* Agenda item #16: New Business: Bobick discussed the Optical Society of
* Agenda item #9: J. Aggarwal discussed the need for several officers.
* discussed and a possible third review was done (20 to each member over 1
* J. Mundy discussed 2 projects in a Common IU environment sponsored by
* Several related items were then discussed:
* The issue of a treasurer was discussed in light of the possibility to
* the same time, which brought up the usual long discussed issues of
* with China. H. Freeman discussed the organizing problems. About 680
9 for discussed.
discussing
* 3. CVPR 97. R Nevatia. Discussing 1997 seems early.
* CS is discussing a proceedings package for TC members (at low
discussion
* #2 Discussion (Kak): did we broaden the scope? After the last one
* 9. Double Submissions (CVPR, ICCV, etc). Little discussion, except that
* Agenda item #0: The minutes were approved after some discussion of whether
* A discussion regarding dues for membership in the TC. This is now being
* After more discussion about whether it is right or wrong to submit to
* Agenda item #10: CVPR93 Proposals and discussion:
* Agenda item #11: ICCV (J. Aggarwal): Discussion of the need to hold such
* Agenda item #13: Conference guidelines (R. Haralick): Discussion of the
* areas covered, etc. A discussion of how to deal with these and how to
* Avi started the discussion by presenting the basic issues:
* balance. (Gerson commented on AIPR, heavily industrial.) Discussion
* bound to mail the newsletter to its members. After discussion
* By-laws discussion.
* changes based on discussions at this meeting (with regard to conference
* conference chair and it fell behind. Some discussion of the budget
* discussion are:
* Discussion as to whether this is the list for the IAPR "society"
* Discussion centered on determining differences, who is responsible for
* Discussion centered on how it would be interpreted, the
* Discussion centered on how such a policy would be distributed since
* Discussion centered on offending others (Europe, the US not attending
* discussion from item 7.) It is sent mostly due to the IAPR membership
* Discussion of mailing list form of membership database, signup,
* Discussion of making the move to become a society, we must move to
* discussion of the distribution by the Computer Society of the call for
* Discussion of the hotel costs, and possible dorm accomodations, and
* discussion of the lack of "AI" in PAMI, AI related conferences, name
* Discussion of who is a member of the TC (according to IEEE) the IEEE
* discussion of worry and how to deal with overlap of other conferences
* Discussion on dates of ICCV/CVPR and conflicts
* Discussion on paper topics not mentioned in the call (e.g. medical image
* discussion on what it means to broaden the meeting, but are the
* Discussion on who they would report to?
* Discussion that people will break this policy and to make rules
* discussion, it was withdrawn by the maker.
* discussion, many (all?)
* Discussion: General membership does not know what a TC is. There is
* Discussion: no way to have third track in the hotel in the Seattle
* Discussion: not wanting quotas, but the reviews were done by
* Discussion: the TC chair appoints all delegates, with nominal renewal every
* Discussions on Image data base, cam PAMI do anything (i.e. add the
* etc.) A balance of Industry, government and universities. Discussion
* feasible, discussions on international conferences should be held at
* Further discussion included why the meeting was scheduled so close to
* in Japan. He porposed, based on discussions with many people including
* initial filtering. Discussions included the nature of the conference,
* interest, can convert it to HTML. A discussion regarding paper or
* Issues for Discussion:
* Item 12. Discussion of standards for papers, and conferences. (Tom
* posters. A discussion on the roe of posters. Joe Mundy asked the
* Run by ICPR. Discussion of the 4th. 1996 in Germany, with various
* some discussion of a West Coast location, with no other suggestions at
* still too narrow. Open discussion on whether it is broad enough.
* Strong discussion. Joseph Boykin attended to present the Goode award
* The result of the discussion is that the executive committee of the PAMI
* the US 4 members on the board. Then the discussion started of what
* There is a Workshop on Motion every about 3 years. Discussion of Florida
* There was discussion that this should be deferred. The deferral
* Utah. A discussion followed:
* V. Issues for Discussion:
* was a discussion of the net surplus from the transactions and the need
61 for discussion.
disscussion
* disscussion indicated some concern in the international representation
dissolved
* AFIPS dissolved, the IEEE-Computer Society assumed responsibility
distinct
* dates). There are 4 distinct tracks: Computer Architecture, Signal
distinguish
* something changes)? We don't distinguish, but take both.
distinguished
* Q: Some distinguished between context and domain speific (ie
distributed
* Agenda item #10: The revised by-laws, distributed at ICCV-II, were
* Discussion centered on how such a policy would be distributed since
distribution
* Agenda item #5: The current distribution of the IAPR newsletter will
* discussion of the distribution by the Computer Society of the call for
divided
* Attendees were about evenly divided among members, students, and
doc
* Doc anal, 1 on medical. Panel, single track.
* papers as good. In this one Doc Anal had 2 submitted and 1 is in.
document
* 2. 2nd Document Analysis and Recognitin Conference: R. Haralick
* 4. Third International Conference on Document Analysis and
* 5. Fourth International Conference of Document Analysis and
* Agenda item #4: Document Processing Workshop, September 30: (Bob
* Computer Vision and document analysis. (Haralick) perspective on
* End of August. Really means: Document reognition. Calls for
* Haralick) It has become the First International Conference on Document
* Q: did it not include good people (e.g. document image analysis --
* short, 400 attended. Document analysis is fast moving and growing
9 for document.
does
* (Grimson:) PAMI generates 300K for the CS, but does not get any
* Discussion: General membership does not know what a TC is. There is
* does a 5 year annual purge (or some such).
* IEEE does build in a cushion, so be careful and plan for this.
* is gone by the time the paper is published and the professor does not
* who does not. Problem of membership, who is a member, who is not?
* who is a member and who can vote. IEEE does not regard this as a
7 for does.
doesn't
* (Freeman) Cultural problem, once a conference doesn't have some
* decision last year. Just because people want it doesn't mean it is
doing
* in return, but it requires a lot of work for the people doing it.
* leave IEEE. All of these involve doing a lot of work, and there is
domain
* Q: Some distinguished between context and domain speific (ie
dominate
* mailing costs dominate at about $8K to $10K each. The IAPR newsletter
* Vision has increased to the point where Computer Vision dominates
don't
* because they don't fell that they will get a fair hearing (some
* Problem is not the mailing list, but the problem is that we don't
* something changes)? We don't distinguish, but take both.
done
* (L. Shapiro) Posters as not quite yet done and submitted as posters.
* can be done between meetings. There is a need for other meetings.
* discussed and a possible third review was done (20 to each member over 1
* Discussion: not wanting quotas, but the reviews were done by
* Done.
* For future meeting, if this is done, consider offering an extra
* only make hard decisions after the reviews have done most of the
* Service awards: We have given them, but we haven't done it lately
* Tanimoto comment, there are many things that can be done and are
9 for done.
dorm
* (less than Seattle, Boston, San Francisco). Dorm space is an issue, but
* Discussion of the hotel costs, and possible dorm accomodations, and
* Eric noted that half of the 600 registered were in the dorm at MIT.
double
* 9. Double Submissions (CVPR, ICCV, etc). Little discussion, except that
* reviewers, but it is not clear is it helped. [Comment on double blind
down
* 2 year, PAMI is down about 7%.
* A question regarding the weighting down of some reviewers since they
* the least (all are down). Down 3%. Trans-C down 10% Possibility
* transactions subscriptions are down around 10% each of the last
6 for down.
downtown
* at the International House (downtown). The review procedures will be
draft
* Avi: Will draft a petition tonight for sending to IEEE.
* Draft a petitiion (and signed by over 100 people) to IEEE that we
draw
* broad and to draw in the papers, but good papers must be submitted.
drawing
* Anaysis. Character recognition, engineering drawings, and music are the
* directions by drawing on the best few papers for the other meetings
drive
* 1. Membership Drive: L. Shapiro / R. Krishnan
* conferences is a terrible idea -- applications drive CV. More
* pressures to drive it.
drop
* Vision. (i.e. drop Pattern Recognition from the name). Seconded (Shaprio).
dual
* prohibition on dual publications.)
due
* (due to conflicts with schools on the quarter system).
* (replacing C. Suen). The backlog has decreased due to the increased
* A discussion regarding dues for membership in the TC. This is now being
* Agenda item #9: ICCV93: Berlin (May?): Date not certain (partly due to
* between 1991 and 1992 was cut 40% due to the new formula that ties the
* Critical Mass for a society. Dues enough to cover expenses/.
* delayed (due to audience members, etc.). Complain to Anil if there
* discussion from item 7.) It is sent mostly due to the IAPR membership
* do not have dues, either dues for the TC or the Robotics with an
* extra $5 for dues.
* fewer members would mean (lower dues, fewer IAPR members).
* IEEE-CS generates about $300,000 from the Trans-PAMI (due to most of
* Maryland in January. Rather than the entire committee (due to the
* proposal due to the large overlap with PAMI. Al Bovik commented that
* raised the issue of the $1500 dues we pay to IAPR and the cost of
* Sizes PAMI currently 1200 (with no dues), R&A is 7000, CS is 100K.
* US is a category C, (needs 800 members). With smaller number dues
18 for due.
duly
* Comments were duly noted by the organizers.
duplicate
* Duplicate submissions -- policy is stated on the call for papers for
* reconsider the policy on duplicate submissions. (Keeping the
during
* during the university school year, and the attempt to make sure that
dyer
* #12. Proposal for a second Workshop on Applications of Computer Vision (Dyer).
* 1992. (Bir Bhanu) Program committee of D. Dyer and M. Herman, J.
* 2. CVPR96: K. Ikeuchi, B. Bhanu, C. Dyer
* C Dyer/Ikeuchi program chair, Bhanu as general chair.
* California (San Francisco) (return from 1995). Dyer/Ikeuchi as