wait * Not giving the process enough time, and should wait. Three

walk * So far, there are 316 pre registered and 53 walk-ins (369). An

want * bigger and have some of what we want. Current relationship is
* Comment: (Freeman) Point missed, did this group want to have an
* decision last year. Just because people want it doesn't mean it is
* Linda: We do use some of the pieces, do we want to provide the
* members want. No decisions made.
* of us want to to be with IEEE, to have low cost journal. Maybe
* Q: Why just face recognition? Want to keep it small so just
* really want to have one. (Steve) At the moment we do not have the
* want Pattern Recognition papers or not. Image Processing has a new conference. Issue is whether
* you want other workshops get the ideas in. Some supported by the
10 for want.

wanted * Issues with the computer society. Initially they wanted to budget
* this meeting at 250 Eric wanted 450 and the CS finally did allow 350.

wanting * Discussion: not wanting quotas, but the reviews were done by

wants * (Not friendly, wants to have it broader).

was * (Rosenfeld) Newsletter was discussed earlier, crazy mailing list
* 250-280. The only problem was the representation of US universities
* a North American location should be presented at that time. There was
* A plan for Pennsylvania in 1994 was mentioned, and T. Henderson proposed
* Agenda Item #3a: Morphology workshop, Ed Delp. Was going to be this
* Agenda Item #3b: Ramesh Jain was awarded his certificate for
* Agenda Item #4: ICCV-93. The call for papers was available at CVPR.
* an research centers. Deemed to be a success. There was a meeting
* and J. Sklansky was added as a US representative. J. Aggarwal was elected as
* and was invited to respond.
* between 1991 and 1992 was cut 40% due to the new formula that ties the
* both were below 2, it was rejected. The remaining 350 papers were
* Boykin stated that the CS policy was that proceedings would be
* budget was approved.
* Comment that posters had 2 pages -- that was low. Possible same
* discussed and a possible third review was done (20 to each member over 1
* discussion, it was withdrawn by the maker.
* Executive Board for decision making. History, there was an
* expenses were about $13.4K sinced it was budgeted at 55 people.
* for later meetings. ICCV-2 was close to break even or a small loss.
* Further discussion included why the meeting was scheduled so close to
* Hotels run around $100 on the sea front. Proposal was June, but that
* in the date was proposed.
* international issues at a national meeting, it was pointed out that the
* meeting in Hawaii was well received.
* meeting, if both reviews gave a 4 or above, the paper was accepted. If
* members attended the selection meeting. The final total was 89 papers
* newsletter. When electronic was offered, only 100 responded. The
* No explaination of why Eric was told otherwise.
* no invited papers. The full list of reviewers was not in the proceedings as
* no one who is strong). Q: regarding who was on the ProgCom -- not
* of the proceedings, Eric was told that any more would cost
* on a single day. Each was sent to 3 reviewers, a subcommittee of
* papers this allowed, but there was still strong support for the
* Passed with 2 opposed. Uncountable was for.
* Patrick: How things have changed? Year ago budget was $4K, now
* publications) showed that PAMI was the highest of all Transactions.
* qualified people. Was it the history of the meeting (rejecting past
* requirement, but sent to a strange list. An electronic list was
* Shirai) was Yes:35, No: 22, Abstain 6, with a strong minority support for
* size of short papers be increased was passed: Yes 25, No 18, Abstain 6.
* Steve: R&A really was formed by the efforts of one person.
* submitted, 44 accepted, + 2 invited. The income was about $20K, and the
* surplus. A large part is newsletters, but the editor was
* The Harry Goode Award was created by AFIPS in 1964 and in 1990 when
* The issue of a treasurer was discussed in light of the possibility to
* The meeting was adjourned at 12:15 on December 6.
* the policy in 1994 did not work. (Indicate it was submitted to
* the production of all transactions was shifted from NJ (IEEE) to CA
* The selection was based on the results of the blind review process, with
* There was discussion that this should be deferred. The deferral
* This is not Jurassic Park. Yesterday the first on was held. Fully
* to the authors, be retained was passed with no opposition.
* was a discussion of the net surplus from the transactions and the need
* was for 260. Posters were increased to 3 pages in the proceedings. A
* was given to A. Rosenfeld at ICPR-88 in Rome. T. Pavlidis retired from
* was requested. The allocation is 1/3 of the conference surplus plus some more
* was tabled by a vote of Yes (to table) 16, No 11, Abstain 14. Thus, no change
* were sent out for determining the Roberts award. There was also some
60 for was.

washington * shapiro@cs.washington.edu.

way * Discussion: no way to have third track in the hotel in the Seattle
* enforcement of the existing rules. A: No formal way to get on the
* number of pages. Find a way to recycle the money to the TC by

weak * Comments: (J Mundy) Reminded that some past meetings with weak reviews

weakens * papers weakens the conference.

weather * in weather. Airfares are about $800-900 from London, and $1000 from

web * See the Web page.

wednesday * Presented his petition, circulated on Wednesday and Thursday.

week * (Possible dates, in October 1995; or Week before Thanksgiving.)
* at CMU (one of the 10 highest at CMU 500 per week -- send mail to
* Board meeting (next week) will propose that PAMI go to 12 issues and
* week before. Finiancial Responsibility with ICPR, this is an
* Week of June 16 Hotel Nikko. (Not signed yet, but that is the

weighting * A question regarding the weighting down of some reviewers since they

weinshall * b. Tel Aviv proposal: Yeshurun, Shashua, Weinshall, Edelman;

well * after 5 meetings in cities (well Champaign-Urbana). Several things
* meeting in Hawaii was well received.

were * 210 papers were submitted, expect about 40%-60%. This meeting
* 400 people on the conference lists that were not on the TC list were contacted
* Agenda item #0: The minutes were approved after some discussion of whether
* Agenda item #10: The revised by-laws, distributed at ICCV-II, were
* Agenda item #1: R. Bajcsy gave a report on ICCV-II: There were 306 papers
* Agenda item #0: The minutes of the last meeting were approved
* Agenda Item #1: CVPR92, Narendra Ahuja. There were 357 submissions,
* Agenda item #1: The minutes of the last meeting were approved.
* Agenda item #3: CAD-Based Vision June 2-3: (Linda Shapiro) 69 were
* Attendees were about evenly divided among members, students, and
* both were below 2, it was rejected. The remaining 350 papers were
* Changes made in the executive committee (Section 3.2) were removal after
* Comments were duly noted by the organizers.
* Concerns regarding the cost were addressed. The hotel is $120 in 1997
* Discussion: not wanting quotas, but the reviews were done by
* equivalent papers were rejected on the grounds of prior conference
* Eric noted that half of the 600 registered were in the dorm at MIT.
* expenses were about $13.4K sinced it was budgeted at 55 people.
* Held in Tskuba Japan this fall, over 260 papers, 20 were long 124
* Issues raised were Technical Council (a bit more freedom than
* Item 1. The previous minutes were approved with an addition to
* night). 98 papers and 45 posters. 22 committee members were at the LA
* PR papers) or that no good ones were there. Question is whether we
* provided at cost (rather than sales prices) if they were available.
* Recognition papers, but the ones submitted were bad.
* registered, 18 or 30 submissions were accepted.
* retain more conference income, but decisions were postponed until the
* service as the past chair. The appointed officers were announced:
* Several related items were then discussed:
* The by-laws were passed by Yes: 20, No: 0, and Abstain: 7.
* The conference fees (which were considered
* the last TC newsletter. Several minor changes were made at the meeting.
* There were 491 papers submitted, 2 reviewers for each paper with at
* was for 260. Posters were increased to 3 pages in the proceedings. A
* were poorly considered. (T. Binford) Quality is shown by innovation and
* were sent out for determining the Roberts award. There was also some
* were submitted and 3 reviewers will be used. About 35 are expected.
39 for were.

west * Mention: Key West is cheaper (Miami)?
* some discussion of a West Coast location, with no other suggestions at

westin * chairs approved last year. The Seattle Westin Hotel has been

what * (ECCV, ICPR), a difficulty in determining what is different. Some
* a lack of awareness of what the TC membership is.
* bigger and have some of what we want. Current relationship is
* Can we take the journal? Threaten to pull out and see what happens.
* discussion on what it means to broaden the meeting, but are the
* Discussion: General membership does not know what a TC is. There is
* Linda: Not sure what to spend the money on, hard to get the people
* Q: Motion to attempt to fix something, what is being fixed?
* the call for papers is already out, what it real means, how much
* the US 4 members on the board. Then the discussion started of what
* them, how much to charge, what would they provide, what services would
* what, and how relevant the issue is in the first place.
13 for what.

whatever * mail the newsletter directly to the US membership list (whatever that
* mailing the IAPR newsletter to the membership list (whatever that is).
* the journal), such as a society or whatever.

wheather * allowed by the Computer Society. The question is wheather to charge

when * A: When crucial decisions need to be made must be made by the
* images used in papers to a data base), when to add since the student
* it when to the 10K list, but that is expensive.
* meeting of the PAMI TC membership when compared to the PAMI journal
* newsletter. When electronic was offered, only 100 responded. The
* The Harry Goode Award was created by AFIPS in 1964 and in 1990 when
6 for when.

where * (where is PR?). There is not much on Pattern Recognition in the
* know where the images are. Phil Kahn (ADS and the net news vision
* Radius where context is used. Time Tied to ICCV.
* Vision has increased to the point where Computer Vision dominates

whether * Agenda item #0: The minutes were approved after some discussion of whether
* After more discussion about whether it is right or wrong to submit to
* conferences, whether the TC should dictate conference format, and how to
* control the program committee should have, whether it would lead to
* Discussion as to whether this is the list for the IAPR "society"
* Open question is whether there is running commentary (currently no).
* PR papers) or that no good ones were there. Question is whether we
* question of whether one conference can handle all of them is another
* still too narrow. Open discussion on whether it is broad enough.
* want Pattern Recognition papers or not. Image Processing has a new conference. Issue is whether
* whether one month or 6 months apart, travel to major conferences
11 for whether.

which * (CS-Press), which has helped publication. There is a CS committee
* (which is cheaper to stay and get to). Puerto Rico? (St Thomas is
* 160 papers. One issue to think about is the single track, which would
* allow for about 70-80 papers, or the posters which results in about
* are added. We currently claim >1000 members for the IAPR which gives
* Current motion is an EC, which is a good thing that is willing to
* The conference fees (which were considered
* the same time, which brought up the usual long discussed issues of
8 for which.

while * a year with the IAPR being the bulk of the newsletter. For a while

who * (who is willing). Moved and seconded, unanimous.
* conference. An issue is who is a member? and a structure of a
* Discussion centered on determining differences, who is responsible for
* Discussion of who is a member of the TC (according to IEEE) the IEEE
* Discussion on who they would report to?
* no one who is strong). Q: regarding who was on the ProgCom -- not
* open up the process. But we are not keeping track of who comes and
* publication. So an issue of who are the members so that business
* Q: Who takes the finiancial risk? Hope proeedings from IEEE, up
* Steve: If there are enough people who feel that we should look at
* votes among the membership by mail and not just who comes to the
* Who are members for IAPR issues. We do not have a good structure of
* who does not. Problem of membership, who is a member, who is not?
* who is a member and who can vote. IEEE does not regard this as a
18 for who.

whole * too high) are based on a formula. For the computer area as a whole,

why *

  • Comments on why both ICPR and ICCV exist.
    * Explore why the problems have an overlap.
    * Further discussion included why the meeting was scheduled so close to
    * No explaination of why Eric was told otherwise.
    * Q: Why just face recognition? Want to keep it small so just

    wide * one is at 1K. Advantage is wide circulation because of being

    wider *

  • Favor wider acceptance criteria (larger number of papers) since the

    will * (for presented and other papers). There will be an associated Passive
    * 15 meeting in Dallas of the program committee will choose the final
    * 618 registered. The 1992 submission is a 2500 word abstract and will
    * Agenda item #5: The current distribution of the IAPR newsletter will
    * Agenda item #7: H. Freeman reported that ICPR will be held in Atlantic City on
    * Admendment that the dates will be held until until Boston in 95.
    * at the International House (downtown). The review procedures will be
    * Avi: Will draft a petition tonight for sending to IEEE.
    * because they don't fell that they will get a fair hearing (some
    * Board meeting (next week) will propose that PAMI go to 12 issues and
    * Comment on earlier motion, that CS will not like the idea that PAMI
    * committee is being assembled and will meet at the University of
    * deadline will be known soon and some attempt is being made to raise some
    * Discussion that people will break this policy and to make rules
    * fall, but will be March 1993 in Nashville. Vanderbilt (A. Peters) will
    * groups will go over papers in more detail. The review form is
    * ICCV95 location will be decided at ICCV93 in Berlin in May and that
    * IEEE Computer will feature 1 or 2 TCs each issue. PAMI will appear in
    * IEEE is recommending that all TCs have some structure that will make
    * IEEE is the host. ICPR-92 will be in Holland. The first K. S. Fu award
    * if accepted). After decisions are made, there will be about 7-10 days
    * in 5 years that all will be available in CDRom, a trend to CDRom.
    * is a conflict and will be shifted.
    * Item 9. ICCV-3. (Avi Kak) Will be held in Osaka, December 4-7, 1990,
    * June 3-7, 1990. R. Bajcsy is the vice-chair. There will be 4 separate
    * looking into electronic versions. Library subscribers will get a
    * not a lot of people that will devote the time and effort to do the
    * Notification will be June 17. The conference generated a motion
    * overlap). There will be a motion track, expect to have 2 tracks
    * page (with the provision that the excess page charge will be paid
    * Pages will remain constant over the near term.
    * papers are expected, but only 50-60 per track (240 total) will be
    * PR authors believe that their papers will be treated properly.
    * recommendation of the current chair. T. Huang will be proposed as the
    * reviewers with blind reviewing. A July 11 meeting will finalize the
    * signed (Omni Park Central, NYC), the rates will be a bit higher than
    * TC will prepare a proposal regarding conferences that addresses these
    * The room rates will be $145.
    * too late for them to arrange locations, there will be a meeting
    * We will allow members to request a no paper option.
    * were submitted and 3 reviewers will be used. About 35 are expected.
    43 for will.

    willing * (who is willing). Moved and seconded, unanimous.
    * Current motion is an EC, which is a good thing that is willing to
    * Formal motion that CVPR 97 that the USC group is is willing to do

    winter * be out in the winter with a CVPR report, updated bylaws, etc. From the

    withdraw * Motion: (Tom Binford) That IEEE-PAMI-TC withdraw from IAPR. After
    * submissions and then to request that they withdraw the paper from one

    withdrawn * discussion, it was withdrawn by the maker.
    * withdrawn by its maker.

    within * indicate more specific topics within Pattern Recognition (High dimensional
    * proposals within 6 months or less. A short presentation for holding the
    * within IEEE, and the low cost. Private publishers are happy to
    * Workshop on Robust Vision Techniques (Haralick) within 14 months.

    without * Avi: R and A runs a big one without the support (but only that one).

    wolff * Shafer, Wolff, Healy, Nayar, Woodam, Tomanaga, xx. Initially

    women * Club is going to vote as to admitting women as members.

    woodam * Shafer, Wolff, Healy, Nayar, Woodam, Tomanaga, xx. Initially

    word * 618 registered. The 1992 submission is a 2500 word abstract and will

    work * in return, but it requires a lot of work for the people doing it.
    * leave IEEE. All of these involve doing a lot of work, and there is
    * real alternative places to eat, but the hotel may be able to work
    * requirement for new unpublished work already stated in the call for
    * Thanks given to N. Ahuja, T. Huang and A. Rosenfeld for their work on
    * the policy in 1994 did not work. (Indicate it was submitted to
    * the work (Huttenlocher/Ponce).
    * work in Japan.
    * work with IEEE to work on a better arrangement to have greater
    * work.
    11 for work.

    working * #9. PAMI Transactions (Anil Jain) 1 submission per day, working
    * papers, and working groups to consider issues.

    workshop * #10. 1994 Workshop on Multi-Dimensional Biomedical Image Analysis
    * #11. Workshop on Performance vs Methodology in CV. (Meer and Haralick) --
    * #12. Proposal for a second Workshop on Applications of Computer Vision (Dyer).
    * #13. Proposal for a 1995 Workshop on CV/Motion Analysis (Medioni,
    * (CVPR, European CV, workshops, etc.).
    * (there is a motion workshop with it). The paper deadline is June
    * 1. International Workshop on Face Recognition: T. Huang.
    * 2. International Workshop on Graphics Recognition: R. Kasturi
    * 2. Non-rigid Motion Workshop. Jake Agarwal. Held last October.
    * 3. Workshop on Context based Vision: J Mundy and T Strat June 1995
    * 4. 3rd CAD-Based Vision Workshop
    * 7. Shape and Pattern Matching in Computational Biology Workshop:
    * 8. Workshop on Computer Vision (Visual Motion): D. Goldgof, G.
    * Agenda item #2: No report on the Time-varying Imagery Workshop.
    * Agenda item #6: Proposal for a workshop on three-dimensional structures
    * Motion: That the 1995 Workshop expand the scope to include it in the
    * Agenda item #11: Workshop on Computer Vision Applications: December 2-4,
    * Agenda Item #3a: Morphology workshop, Ed Delp. Was going to be this
    * Agenda item #4: Document Processing Workshop, September 30: (Bob
    * Agenda item #5: Motion Workshop (October 7-9) (P. Anandan): 125 papers
    * Agenda item #5: Motion Workshop (R. Jain): The paper deadline
    * Agenda Item #5: Qualitative Vision Workshop: Phil Kahn. In
    * Agenda item #6: Workshop on Mathematical Morphology (Spring, Kentucky):
    * and workshops, it is time to grow beyond a TC after 22 years,
    * arranged along with a one day workshop.
    * committee of 50 people. Try to add other workshops around ICCV, if
    * Considering a workshop on Purposive Vision (Aloimonos and Rosenfeld).
    * in San Diego, June 6-8 with an AI and Computer vision Workshop (J.
    * is July 15, and the workshop on March 20-22 in Irvine, CA.
    * Item 4. Motion Workshop. (Brian Schunk) 115 attended, 75 papers
    * Item 6. 3-D Workshop Austin TX, Nov 27-29, 1989. (Anil Jain) The
    * past there has been a Workshop on Computer Vision as an outlet for
    * pay attention to the workshop and conference budgets. This also
    * plan). As always, encourage associated workshops like this one.
    * program. There is a possible Human-Computer Vision workshop on the
    * Ranging workshop (Bir Bhanu) on October 9 with 9 presentations, then 4
    * that are available for tutorials and/or workshops.
    * There is a Workshop on Motion every about 3 years. Discussion of Florida
    * This follows the successful workshop in Maui (CVPR 91) and
    * tutorials (Monday), 3 Workshop planned (Visual Behaviors; Role of Function
    * Workshop on Robust Vision Techniques (Haralick) within 14 months.
    * workshop. IROS is being held in pittsburgh in August (not much
    * workshops on manufacturing and intelligent robotics. This led to a
    * you want other workshops get the ideas in. Some supported by the
    44 for workshop.

    worry * discussion of worry and how to deal with overlap of other conferences

    worthy * Kender and Worthy Martin for the program, 327 papers submitted (90
    * The meeting ended with a thanks to Worthy, John and Rama for the success

    would * 160 papers. One issue to think about is the single track, which would
    * Boykin stated that the CS policy was that proceedings would be
    * control the program committee should have, whether it would lead to
    * current entire membership and to establish how the 12 would then be
    * Discussion centered on how it would be interpreted, the
    * Discussion centered on how such a policy would be distributed since
    * Discussion on who they would report to?
    * executive board (10-12) that would meet and make decisions.
    * fewer members would mean (lower dues, fewer IAPR members).
    * of the proceedings, Eric was told that any more would cost
    * possiblity that IAPR would kick the US out anyway, and that IAPR might
    * sensitivity. This would be the third in a series (Seattle in 1990,
    * Steve: afraid that the number that would commit to the time is low.
    * the agreement that the newsletter would go to all PAMI subscribers, but
    * them, how much to charge, what would they provide, what services would
    * [Later, after the proposers stated that December 1997 would be
    17 for would.

    written * A motion (by E. Grimson) that the current format, with written reviews returned

    wrong * After more discussion about whether it is right or wrong to submit to


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